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Things are looking up…

I’ve noticed recently that the West Coast job market has gotten better in the past few months, in relation to law firm hiring.  Law firms are cautiously dipping their toes back in the associate hiring waters.  For example, I recently got a job order from a firm in LA for a junior litigation associate- and have also received job orders for mid-level corporate associates, as well.

This is a good sign.  Many firms are becoming more optimistic that the economy is improving and that there will be a need for associate hiring in areas like general corporate, litigation, and real estate law.  Keep in mind that firms are still pretty selective in regards to granting associate interviews.  Overall though, this increase in associate hiring is great news for many in our legal community.

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Legal Veterans Advise Newbies How Not to Blow Their Job Search

Here’s a valuable excerpt from today’s Legal Times entitled “How to Land that First Job.” Veterans from top firms offer advice on how to avoid common goofs and gaffes and how to nail your interview. To read the full article, go to this site: http://www.law.com/jsp/law/careercenter/lawArticleCareerCenter.jsp?id=1202424212239

Law firm partners: George Bostick, Sutherland Asbill & Brennan; Christopher Davies, Wilmer Cutler Pickering Hale and Dorr; Katherine Fallow, Jenner & Block; Julia Kazaks, Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom; Julie McEvoy, Jones Day; Elissa Preheim, Arnold & Porter.

1. What do you look for when hiring summer and first-year associates?

“The most important factor is whether this is someone whose academic or work performance thus far indicates an ability to juggle multiple tasks and to achieve deadline-driven success.” — Julie McEvoy

“Excellent grades and strong writing skills and strong interpersonal skills and a demonstrated interest in being in D.C. and in the firm’s practice areas.” — Julia Kazaks

“The first thing we look for is a self-starter. … Prizes don’t go to wallflowers.”
–Christopher Davies

“Three key factors are: (1) students with strong academic records who are critical thinkers; (2) people who take ownership of projects and (3) those who work well on teams.” — Elissa Preheim
“Experience that will convince me the person can work as part of a team.” — George Bostick

“The question is if this is someone I would feel comfortable bringing to a client meeting as a summer or first-year associate. … That’s a pretty important benchmark.” — Julie McEvoy

2. What do you seek to avoid? Any big mistakes on resumes or in interviews?

“Resumes that are unattractive or have typos or are just strange will attract attorney discussion.” — Christopher Davies

“Anything you list on your resume you should be prepared to talk about.” — Katherine Fallow

“Law firms are full of Luddites, and we are amazed at what students will post about themselves on the Internet.” — Julie McEvoy

“Too Much Information Syndrome. … I recall thinking, ‘Oh my God, I can’t believe someone said that.’ “– Christopher Davies

“It’s important to us that people actually care about the law and not just focus on the $165,000 or whatever it is today.” — George Bostick

“The main mistake is seeming bored or uninterested, either with things you have done or in the firm. … Find a way to show enthusiasm.” — Katherine Fallow

“About the worst thing a candidate can do is to ignore the junior person [in an interview]. … One time, I had to step out to handle a client phone call, and I told them to go ahead and start. I later heard that while I was out, the guy hadn’t engaged on much of anything short of shopping at Costco.” — George Bostick

“Don’t waste time on cover letters and thank-you notes. They can create more problems than they solve.” — Julie McEvoy

3. What could law students do most easily to improve their chances of being hired?

“Pay attention to comments made by interviewers in the early part of the day and incorporate them into interviews in the later part of day. … It’s important to show that you picked up on what others have said. Interviewers talk to each other afterward.” — Julia Kazaks

“Invest in a comfortable or well-fitting suit. A flashy or ill-fitting suit can highlight a student’s lack of comfort or familiarity with a professional workplace.” — Julie McEvoy

“Schedule morning interviews with firms that you are most interested in. Both candidates and interviewers are more tired in the afternoon.” — Christopher Davies

“Come to an interview prepared with a range of questions. … There’s nothing more terrifying than reaching the point in the interview when the interviewer asks if the student has any questions and the student says, ‘No, I think I’ve asked them all already.’ The interview comes to a screeching halt.” — Julie McEvoy

“Educate yourself about the firm or place where you’ll be interviewing. Educate yourself to see if it’s a good fit.” — Katherine Fallow

“It does matter if someone [at the firm] who’s well regarded will vouch for you. … It generally helps people who are on the margin.” — Christopher Davies

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Flattery or Harassment? Sexual Attention in the Workplace and How to Deal With It

A recent posting by Above the Law discussing the “Hot Attorney” website caught my attention. Here’s the link: http://abovethelaw.com/2008/07/hotatty_hot_attorney_website.php. The “Hot Attorney” website has since been taken down but the reactions to it continue. While many of the female attorneys whose pictures were posted without their knowledge were understandably angry, one associate was not upset and seemed to be flattered by the attention.

This raises some interesting issues: when it comes to sexual attention in the workplace, what is flattery, what is harassment and how should the recipient of this type of attention respond?

Flattery or Harassment?

First, when gauging one’s reaction, context is key. Was a questionable comment made one-on- one or in front of a new client at an intake meeting?

Second, what is the power differential? Partner to associate or associate to associate?

Third, does the individual who made the comment have a reputation for that sort of behavior? If so, you may be doing the office a favor by letting them know in order to prevent it from happening again.

Fourth, and most importantly, how did it make you feel? Did it make you feel happy or demeaned?

What To Do?

After you’ve had a chance to think it through and gauge for yourself whether you were complimented or harassed, and you believe that you were harassed, then here are some possible ways to address the situation.

First, discreetly take the individual aside and talk about it. You may begin with a soft opening such as, “Look, you probably meant it is a compliment but….” and then express how the comment made you feel. If it happened in front of others, explain to the person that you don’t want your colleagues thinking about you in a sexual manner. When they think about you at all, you want it to be about your work and your value as a professional.

Second, if you’re too intimidated to talk to the person directly, seek out a trusted senior attorney to confide in and perhaps use as a go-between.

Third, if you feel that the situation has gotten out of hand, then talk to a trusted Labor & Employment attorney within your firm. Perhaps the individual in question has a history of this type of behavior.

Fourth, if you work with the individual on a daily basis, and you feel that the damage can not be repaired, then ask to be re-assigned to other matters.

Fifth, remember that you did nothing wrong and that you are entitled to work in an environment where you feel safe and at ease with your colleagues.

Conclusion

As a lawyer, it’s important to keep in mind that you will oftentimes work under extreme stress and time pressures. Some people handle it better than others. That said, be sure to carefully evaluate the question: flattery or harassment? Is someone simply using their out-loud voice when they shouldn’t? Or, is this a pattern of unwelcome, and inappropriate, attention? If it is the latter, then do something about it. But, if it is the former, then perhaps use a bit of humor to re-direct the attention and drive on.

Finally, a bit of anecdotal advice. I used to be an Army JAG attorney and spent a considerable amount of my time at Ft. Bragg, N.C. In Army parlance, Bragg is known as “the center of the universe.” It’s home to the Airborne and Special Operations Forces. Hence, Bragg is a very macho place and to succeed there, it behooves one to be “one of the guys.” In this way, it was very much like a law firm where the senior partners are often men and you’ve got to play along to get along.

Now, the men that I worked with at Bragg were mostly professionals, but there were a few exceptions. For the exceptions, I learned that the most effective way to handle them was to pull them away from the group, look them straight in the eye, and tell them I thought that they could do better. It worked and I didn’t come off as shrill or overly sensitive. In fact, one of these clowns eventually became a friend of mine and turned out to be not such a bad guy.

So, keep your sense of humor, try not to overreact and remember that a direct approach is most often the most successful one.

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But do you have any portable business?

The Texas Lawyer had an interesting article recently called How Associates Can Blow the Business-Development Bell Curve. It has long puzzled me how little training is given to associates in fostering and encouraging their business development skills.

After only eight months as an associate, I remember a partner I worked for told me that I should begin thinking about how to bring in new business. The conversation left me with large saucer eyes as I scuttled back to my office to keep my head down and write a memo. I remember thinking, “Is he crazy? My knees still shake very time I enter a courtroom!” A more helpful tactic would have been to actually take me along when pitching new business, so I could see how it was done.

Business acumen and legal skills often do not go hand in hand. Why don’t more law schools offer a course on business development so that associates aren’t kept in the dark, only to realize as partnership nears, that things look grim, very grim.

Here are a few suggestions from the article to get you started:

Tap into your personal network (yes, you have one. I promise). Take a contact to lunch, keep it low-pressure, and mention that you’d love an opportunity to earn their business if the opportunity presents itself.

Ask partners for help and guidance. And do it early! Ask partners how they were able to develop business. And if you have a contact that you want to develop and feel a little out of your league, ask a partner to accompany you on the lunch.

You don’t have to move mountains, just start the climb!

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